Chess
T
empo
Username:
Password:
/
Register
User Details
Username:
Blitz Rating:
Standard Rating:
Logout
Home
Solve Tactics
View Problems
PGN Viewer
Stats
Membership
Users
FAQ
Forum
August 29, 2008, 09:11:52 pm
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
News
: SMF - Just Installed!
Home
Help
Search
Chess Tempo Forum
>
Chess Tactics
>
Chess Problems
>
problem 9974 and new problem set
Pages: [
1
]
« previous
next »
Author
Topic: problem 9974 and new problem set (Read 230 times)
drahacikfm
Full Member
Posts: 227
problem 9974 and new problem set
«
on:
May 17, 2008, 07:53:21 pm »
I'm curious if your new generator will delete problem 9974. 1.h4! is the key move, and not so hard to find. I found it in about 10 seconds. Then Black played 1...Qf8, completely hanging his queen (I guess to stop some quicker mate). After 2.Qxf8, White has a queen, bishop, and pawns against Black's lone pawns. The problem should stop here, of course. But no! Now White has to find a mate in 6 more moves. Not the mate in 7 more moves which I found, and got the problem wrong.
This problem has a very high standard rating, not because 1.h4 is hard to find, but because it's
almost impossible (and useless for practical chess) for a human to find the mate in 6 more moves from the completely winning position where he has a queen and a bishop against nothing.
But if the only first move which mates is 1.h4, will this problem be deleted? There are mates-in-9 instead of the mate-in-8 given, but these are not with different first moves. They are with different 3rd or 4th moves. Will the generator take these cases into account?
For this problem specifically, the solution should be manually truncated to give the win after 2.Qxf8.
Logged
FIDE Master Drahacik
richard
Administrator
Hero Member
Posts: 746
Re: problem 9974 and new problem set
«
Reply #1 on:
May 18, 2008, 12:25:38 am »
Hi Drahacik,
Yes, this problem was removed, I didn't look at the analysis but it should have failed at least 2 tests, the longer mates and the winning position after the queen take. To answer your question about the 1.h4 being the only move that leads to mate and whether the generator will still see the longer mates issue starting at later moves. Yes, the generator has to look for ambiguity at every position, so it repeats the tests at every move in the sequence, so for example a branch at move 3 where it was mate in 8, but an alternative mate in 9 was seen then that problem would be rejected.
Regards,
Richard.
Logged
Pages: [
1
]
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
General
-----------------------------
=> News and Updates
=> Site Feedback
-----------------------------
Chess Tactics
-----------------------------
=> General Chess Tactics Discussion
=> Chess Problems
Copyright (C) Chess Tempo 2007,2008. |
Contact