I wondered if this opening is original or not I have been winning a lot of games

[dotthedefender]

I have been winning alot of games with this strategy as black (or defense).

Its like a two-fisted attack where I make them think im going left but I overload the right side!

Check out the pgn
tell me what you think!

I know traditionally this it is unconventional to start with H6, A5, A4 D6, Be3(first five moves as black) but to me its more of a distraction with the A4 pawn.

This is a real rated game I played today If you need more pgn with this opening defense I have about 30 more! Where I win as black! Thanks for your time ~RRNGE

[Event "Yahoo! Chess Game"]
[Site "Yahoo! Chess"]
[Date "2010.03.29"]
[Round ""]
[White "spinnakr2001"]
[Black "signofjonas"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 h6
2. d4 a5
3. Nf3 a4
4. Nc3 d6
5. Be3 Bd7
6. Bd3 Nf6
7. O-O e5
8. d5 Be7
9. Nh4 Nxe4
10. Bxe4 Bxh4
11. Ne2 Bg5
12. f4 Be7
13. fxe5 dxe5
14. Nc3 O-O
15. Qd2 c6
16. d6 Bg5
17. Bxg5 Qxg5
18. Qe2 Bg4
19. Qf2 Nd7
20. Kh1 Rae8
21. h3 Be6
22. h4 Qf4
23. Qe2 Qxh4+
24. Kg1 Nc5
25. Bf3 e4
26. Nxe4 Nxe4
27. Bxe4 b5
28. c3 Bc4
29. Qf3 Bxf1
30. Rxf1 Rxe4
31. d7 f5
32. Qd3 Qd8
33. Rf3 Re1+
34. Kh2 g6
35. Rg3 Kh7
36. Qd6 Rg8
37. Rh3 Re7
38. Qg3 Rxd7
39. Qf4 Qf8
40. Qf3 Rd6
41. b3 axb3
42. axb3 Rf6
43. Qf4 g5
44. Qc7+ Rg7
45. Qg3 Qf7
46. Qf2 g4
47. Rd3 f4
48. Qc2 g3+
49. Kh1 f3
50. Rd7+ Qg6
51. Rxg7+ Kxg7
52. Qd2 f2
53. Qd7+ Rf7
54. Qd4+ Kh7
55. Qd1 f1=Q+ 0-1

[kwchess]

I have been winning alot of games with this strategy as black (or defense).

Its like a two-fisted attack where I make them think im going left but I overload the right side!

Check out the pgn
tell me what you think!

I know traditionally this it is unconventional to start with H6, A5, A4 D6, Be3(first five moves as black) but to me its more of a distraction with the A5 pawn.

This is a real rated game I played today If you need more pgn with this opening defense I have about 30 more! Where I win as black! Thanks for your time ~RRNGE

I think opening h6, a5, a4, d6, Be3 is not a good idea at all. If you win games this way it will almost always be in spite of your opening moves, not because of it. Generally speaking (and almost without exception), opening with either the a or h-pawn, especially if you are black, is a waste of a move. Having your first three moves consisting of a & h-pawn moves is a huge waste. All this is going to achieve is allow white to build a strong centre, develop his pieces much faster than you, and allow him to mount an attack before you.

I almost exlusively play gambits and I would be delighted if my opponent wasted moves and gave me an advantage in development like that.

That said, openings do not matter as much as some people would have you believe, not until your opponents are regularly capable of converting fairly small positional advantages. However, learning opening principles is generally good for your chess development. So I would advise going with something a bit more orthodox, I think there is a lot more to be learnt from doing that.

You may see a handful of games that start with a6, h6 for black in databases, this is probably attributable to either an attempt to gain a psychological advantage, or to get their opponent out of book as soon as possible. Either way, it's a bad idea IMO.

[drahacikfm]

Please don't take these comments too hard, but ...

Obviously White was just a weak player who didn't know how to take advantage of the weak opening moves you played.  While you were completely wasting your moves with h6?, a5?, a4? and Bd7? he should be grabbing huge space in the center with his c-pawn and/or f-pawn, instead of blocking those pawns with his knights.

Then you just blundered a pawn with 7...e5?? (8.dxe5 Ng4 9.Bf4)  Then he blundered a pawn for no reason with 9.Nh4?.  I didn't look past move 9, because there's no point when both sides are just blundering pawns.

Against good players that opening will get crushed.  If you want to get better, you need to stop playing it and learn to develop your pieces and control the center (e4, d4, d5, and e5 in case you don't know, which considering the opening, maybe you don't, since you seem to be concerned more with playing on the sides )

[marvellosity]

As it happens, I played a strong player at 90+5 recently who took the piss in the opening as Black a bit with a5, h5, a4, and I chose e4,d4,Nf3,Nc3 without grabbing any more space.

When players waste moves with pawns in the opening I like to get my bits out asap and then play for an attack.

[uri blass]

Rybka suggests in this game at move 3 the line
3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 but rybka may be wrong.

I wonder if rybka(or another program) can see a win for white after a deep search and I am going to ask about it in another forum that talk about chess programs.

[dotthedefender]

There are several key elements in this style that I focus on. 1.) guard a4 pawn. which keeps the c3 knight temporarily occupied. 2.) cut off tha a file so no A4-8 moves for white which to me "is" winning space. 3.) most people try to overpower the center. I expect you to! 4.) most of the time I gain momemtum in this style because I dont castle unless it is benificial but mostly I dont castle.... I barracade my king under the white center pawns and flank rooks. 5.) The element of surprise with this style catches most people off guard. 6.) I get all my pawns in the game early and use my Bishops/knights/Queen/Rooks to trade out.... so in the end game that a4 pawn is a BEAST! 7.) if the A4 pawn is captured then I usually double my rooks up on the A file as early as possible.

This style is verry explosive in most games.... Ive tried several traditional defenses but there are plenty of avenues to teach you the counters. But there is no book for this style.... I am the book! lol It is very deceptive in its simplicty and baits your opponent into controlling the center while distroying the flanks and smothering you opponent from either side of the center. In this game my opponent is rated much higher than me like all the others! As for it being a waist of moves I gain those moves back mostly my not castling! I have been doing this style of defense for about 3 months and I am still finding new traps. I must admit that there are some weakness in this style but they are not in the "opening"!

Thanks for your feedback! ~RRNGE

[tommyjb]

Haha, well I'm glad it's working for you dotthedefender.  But please be aware that it's working only because your opponents are not knowledgeable enough to exploit these weak moves, as already stated.

For example, you talk about not castling and leaving the king in the centre.  Well, I would be jumping for joy if my opponents played this, because the strategy to defeat this is simple: open up the centre (e.g., by trading pawns) and attack the central king head on.  Any resulting mate threats are usually decisive.

Kind regards,
Tom

[uri blass]

Looking at the game you won  there are many tactical errors.

For example 23.Qe2 is bad because of Qxh4+ and it is better to trade queens and later 27.Bxe4 is bad because you can win by 27...Bd5 but you chose to play 27...b5 that allows 28.Bxc6(after 28.Bc6
28... Bc4 does not win material after 29.Qf2)

I am not impressed by rating because rating in internet sites is not reliable and many weak players play there.
If he has a better rating than you then it is probably because you did not play enough games to get a reliable rating and not for a different reason.

Uri

[kwchess]

There are several key elements in this style that I focus on. 1.) guard a4 pawn. which keeps the c3 knight temporarily occupied. 2.) cut off tha a file so no A4-8 moves for white which to me "is" winning space. 3.) most people try to overpower the center. I expect you to! 4.) most of the time I gain momemtum in this style because I dont castle unless it is benificial but mostly I dont castle.... I barracade my king under the white center pawns and flank rooks. 5.) The element of surprise with this style catches most people off guard. 6.) I get all my pawns in the game early and use my Bishops/knights/Queen/Rooks to trade out.... so in the end game that a4 pawn is a BEAST! 7.) if the A4 pawn is captured then I usually double my rooks up on the A file as early as possible.

This style is verry explosive in most games.... Ive tried several traditional defenses but there are plenty of avenues to teach you the counters. But there is no book for this style.... I am the book! lol It is very deceptive in its simplicty and baits your opponent into controlling the center while distroying the flanks and smothering you opponent from either side of the center. In this game my opponent is rated much higher than me like all the others! As for it being a waist of moves I gain those moves back mostly my not castling! I have been doing this style of defense for about 3 months and I am still finding new traps. I must admit that there are some weakness in this style but they are not in the "opening"!

Thanks for your feedback! ~RRNGE

Don't ignore what everyone else is telling you. This opening will fail when you play better opponents.

In a correspondence tournament a few years ago I played against someone who did something remarkably similar to this, and while many weaker players did not know how to take advantage of the wasted moves, I simply developed quickly and took overwhelming control of the centre. I won both games easily.

1.) guard a4 pawn. which keeps the c3 knight temporarily occupied.
Your a4 pawn is not going to be the focus of my play, if my knight was on c3 I would not be worried about watching a-pawn when I had an overwhelming lead in development and control of the centre.
2.) cut off tha a file so no A4-8 moves for white which to me "is" winning space.
Again, I'm not bothered by the a-file when you give white 'free' moves to dominate the parts of the board that really matter.
3.) most people try to overpower the center. I expect you to!
That's not a good thing for you! White wants the centre, white gets the centre, black is in a terrible position.
4.) most of the time I gain momemtum in this style because I dont castle unless it is benificial but mostly I dont castle.... I barracade my king under the white center pawns and flank rooks.
You barricade your king under your opponents pawns?! It's bad enough wasting moves with the a & h-pawns allowing white to dominate the centre...then you leave your king in the exact place where white has the biggest advantage?! Very bad idea. By the way, you don't gain time by not castling your king when your king's safety is an issue. It's irrelevant when you have wasted your first few moves, and even more so when you have allowed your opponent to dominate the board and then proceed to leave your king in danger and call it 'saving time'.
5.) The element of surprise with this style catches most people off guard.
The element of suprise with an opening that wastes so many moves might work against poor players. But even limited knowledge of opening principles will allow white to gain a decisive advantage.
6.) I get all my pawns in the game early and use my Bishops/knights/Queen/Rooks to trade out.... so in the end game that a4 pawn is a BEAST!
You will usually have lost before you get to the endgame if you try this against better players.
7.) if the A4 pawn is captured then I usually double my rooks up on the A file as early as possible.
That might be nice in principle, but focussing on doubling your rooks on the a-file is just giving white even more time to control the centre.


Feel free to continue playing with this opening, chess is just a game afterall, but don't be suprised in the future if you find that it was holding you back.

[dotthedefender]

with a grain of salt you all are right! but my main question is... "is this original or not!" If it is, I will keep using it! It works well for me! If you dont understand it play it and work out the kinks as I did! You will see that people are accustomed to theyre own methods and are unable to adapt to what I am presenting to them. This maybe the only reason I win but....(i win). The indian defense has so many flaws I cant count! once you trade bishops its a "meat market"! But there are some who swear to it! The idea behind it is that it is challenging and it is modern! the london system is a great system to run! But it also has flaws! I can run this A4 as well as on the H4 side. which makes it two dimentional! Center game chess is a good strategy. My strategy is to seperate the left/right side and play two smaller games ( as one game ) instead of one great charge down the  middle. I got alpha and bravo team (aka king side/queen side)and deligate accordingly! If this is an original style then.... Ill just sit and waite for the rest of the world to catch up! lol My only problem is what to call it!

[marvellosity]

Basically there's good reasons why it's original.

And it's only original in that it's never been accepted into the praxis of decent players. Beginners play this way all the time.

[drahacikfm]

most people try to overpower the center. I expect you to!... I barracade my king under the white center pawns... I get all my pawns in the game early...  It is very deceptive in its simplicty and baits your opponent into controlling the center while distroying the flanks and smothering you opponent from either side of the center. ... As for it being a waist of moves I gain those moves back mostly my not castling!

If it weren't for the glaring tactical errors you made in the game, I would suspect you are actually a strong player just trying to be a comedian.

[drahacikfm]

There's an IM on ICC who always plays as Black 1.e4 a5 2.d4 Ra6 3.Bxa6 Nxa6 and he almost always beats me.  Why?  Not because of the opening, which is of course objectively lost for Black.  But because he's a much much better blitz player than me.  The blitz results say nothing at all about the quality of the opening, which is of course garbage.  In a two-hour game I would destroy him.

[dotthedefender]

show me a game withougt tactical errors! Show me a perfect game! Show me a perfect player! Show me a perfect system! Mostly its not the game.... Its the player! Like I stated previously I have about 30 pgn of differant senarios where I win playing a "better player" This is just my latest victory! as a matter of fact this is actually the second game we played he won the first one I opened with the e file pawn. then we started over and I played this modern opening I made up! I try to keep on educating my self and my play! I encourage everyone reading this to do the same and this includes stepping outside of the proverbial "box" and doing the unexpected! ~RRNGE

[drahacikfm]

show me a game withougt tactical errors! Show me a perfect game! Show me a perfect player! Show me a perfect system!

Show me a tennis player who has no weaknesses.  Show me a tennis player who never loses a point. Show me a tennis player who plays perfectly.  You can't?

Ok, then don't criticize my style of holding the racket with my foot instead of my hand!  It surprises my opponents and they don't know how to respond!

That's basically what you're saying.  You're just trolling.