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kingzilla
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« on: Jul 17, 2015, 12:10:50 AM »

When I first started using this site I was a mere 1850. I was too blitz oriented, couldn't calculate deep enough in any position, I was lazy and had poor visualization skills.

I quote from my chess article on chess.com>>I have for many years not been doing the right thing, a lot of blitz online and little study combined with little tournament experience. This made me a strong player online but an average OTB player. While I could beat very strong players in blitz, GMs and IMs on good days, this never translated into my real chess strength.

How frustrating it was to realize that I was able to beat a GM on blitz but I was really struggling to beat regular players of my elo, 1800-1900s.

Well this came to an end when I was able to reassess my game and employed the right studying technique.


My OTB rating was 1917. I realized that my biggest problem to improve OTB strength was mainly calculation. So I started a training here on chesstempo.

I quote my article again on my approach again back then>> Improving my calculation abilities

As I said before, I had to reassess my game, and I found out that I wasn’t thinking deep enough in my calculations. Somehow I was content to calculate a few variations and cutting my analysis too short to be any useful. This meant that I was not making the strongest moves, because I was unable to calculate well and accurately. My first big improvement was to train in tactics servers. I used two servers, chess.com and chesstempo. I recommend both, since they have different styles, but chesstempo without any doubt will make you the stronger player. In chesstempo my biggest improvement came in over a year when I went from 1800 rated elo, to 2050 which is really strong. Improvement comes with time, but in my case, I had to fight all the laziness that had installed in me after all those years in blitz. This meant calculating deeper and improving visualization skills. I found myself after a few months of intense training to be calculating much better. 30 min a day is enough, I did mainly 10 problems in chess.com and 2-3 in chesstempo as part of my daily routine. Chess.com problems tend to be easier and are marked with time, while chesstempo problems tend to be more complex and don’t require time management. It’s important to note that, to become good at this, you have to put some effort, and really try to go deep in the position. It is useless to try to guess a move by intuition. For example “this move looks good so let’s play it”. Here you have a chance to calculate all variants and not leave any hole behind. I was amazed about how good I became in visualizing the resulting variants, something that before my training I could never even dream of.

As part of my new serious training programme I did 2 or 3 chesstempo problems everyday. I did this for many months and managed to increase my rating to 2050. At the same time my fide rating went up from 1917 to 2109 in one year having played 61 games.
See my post on chess.com about it: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-i-became-a-2100-fide-rated-in-1-year.

It was a good achievement. I had reached 2100 fide rating in just one year, with 175 elo point gain. I could not ask for more, but yet, we always want more. My next goal was to reach 2200 fide. However, I realized that to solve higher rated problems I would need more time. So thats what I did for the next year.  I still did 1 or 3 problems per day, spending on average 1h-2h solving them all. My approach during this period was to get the solution right no matter how long it took. Some problems I remember took me 1h or my record 1h30!! Wink

Obviously I felt frustrated to be slow. To calculate slow, to see hidden ideas only after 30min of looking at many variations. To me it felt that if I crossed the 15min mark the problem would be of no use at all in an OTB comparison.

Yet, I kept my approach of getting the solutions right, and not caring about the time. With this approach I managed to get to 2230 elo in standard mode. I still felt stupid for taking so long to solve problems. I had a brief moment of frustration where I kind of quit CT.

Then later on, talking to a chess friend about using chesstempo and the importance to stay sharp to play OTB tournaments I decided to take again my training on CT. After 6 months of instense training, I realized I could solve all those 2200+ problems that took me one hour but now I could do it in just 15-20 min in average. My percentage was about 66% so I could keep my rating floating around 2200-2230.

This perception of improvement was not only in speed (which improved by 400%) but also in my feeling of visualization of the resulting positions. I could go much deeper than before, and the important thing I was quicker. Also with CT I improved my skills in searching and eliminating variations to save time. Many times, to discard a variation with many branches you just need to prove that one of the roots is a false step to solve the problem.

Anyways, my point is that my approach of taking my time to solve problems paid off. I am now much quicker at calculation, better at visualization, better at my internal searching/calculating algorythm to save time.

So, if it worked for me, it will work for you. Take your time, eventually, you will be able to solve very difficult problems in decent amount of time ( that are useful for OTB).

Im pretty sure, my calculation is very close to that of a master (FIDE 2200+). However, I still feel I need to work on many areas, positional, opening repertoire and endings. So, becoming a master is tough, but if you put little bricks in the right direction you will eventually build your little  FM house.

At least thats what im doing, and so far with decent results.

Regards

Kingzilla

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richard
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 17, 2015, 12:32:53 AM »

Thanks for the post Kingzilla, very impressive progress! An interesting point of view showing that solving lots of easy problems is not the only (or perhaps best) way of seeing significant improvement, especially for higher rated players.

Regards,
Richard.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 17, 2015, 12:39:54 PM »

Sorry, I have difficulties reading dark blue script on the black background, this colour combination does not have enough contrast for me. Sad

Jolien 
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kingzilla
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 17, 2015, 11:28:47 PM »

I changed the color of the quoted text to green. It seems more readable. Thanks
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 19, 2015, 09:30:44 AM »

Thanks for the post Kingzilla, very impressive progress! An interesting point of view showing that solving lots of easy problems is not the only (or perhaps best) way of seeing significant improvement, especially for higher rated players.

Regards,
Richard.


The main question is how you get to this starting point of being so strong at blitz that you can beat IM and GM at good days.

Usually players at the level of 1850 are not so strong at blitz.


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« Reply #5 on: Jul 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM »

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The main question is how you get to this starting point of being so strong at blitz that you can beat IM and GM at good days.

Usually players at the level of 1850 are not so strong at blitz.

Exactly what I thought, too, when reading this. There are players who are amazingly strong in Blitz, but fail to achieve similar result OTB. Who knows, maybe it is indeed kind of lazyness not to keep caluclating when the positon calmed down? If it is really this weakness ("not to calculate deep enough because of a patience problem" or "I can not concentrate for a longer time period, because I can not get myself together and focus") then it should be possible to improve with some patience training?

An other aspect that would be interesting: How old are you, kingzilla? This is not an irrelevant question, because the older you become, the worse your memory, especially the short memory (working memory), which is why old GMs become weaker (see GM Kortschnoi or GM Karpov).
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 19, 2015, 12:52:23 PM »

The skills it takes to be good at blitz and good at tournament chess are indeed very different. In blitz it's much more important to make fast moves that are simply not trivial to refute while in tournament chess if you just make an intuitively aggressive move your opponent will have time to refute it a lot of the time.

Getting good at calculating concrete variations is enough to get anyone to a 2200 Fide level if not higher. After that it gets harder though. To get better at strategic nuances I could recommend analyzing GM games trying to understand why every single move was made, whether good or bad, especially from a large variety of openings.

In any case I just wanted to thank OP for his story. It's somewhat motivating to me as I understand this frustration of wanting to make moves even though I know I have not calculated the results as thoroughly as I should have. Hopefully some day I will be able to share your patience.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 21, 2015, 11:20:05 PM »

Impressive results
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 22, 2015, 12:29:16 PM »


Good results.

Accurate calculation and visualization will take you a long way. I see in your blog you said you were amazed at how good you became in calculating - perhaps you have a natural talent for it.

Some blitz or other speed work will still help to lubricate the synapses.

You played 61 games in a year - that's dedication - were these all OTB games or some internet tournaments?

Your results are really impressive - you just need to be sure that your speed is not improving (in part) due to repetition.

Good luck.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 08, 2015, 11:29:34 AM »

An other aspect that would be interesting: How old are you, kingzilla? This is not an irrelevant question, because the older you become, the worse your memory, especially the short memory (working memory), which is why old GMs become weaker (see GM Kortschnoi or GM Karpov).

In response to some of the questions, I am 28 right now. When I started my training I was 25-26, there  I increased my rating from 1917 to 2109 . It should be noted that I didnt play any OTB games from age 18-24. I actually started pretty late, although I already had 1800 fide plus all the internet experience at 24 so when I retook chess I didnt start from scratch.

You played 61 games in a year - that's dedication - were these all OTB games or some internet tournaments?

Yes, those 61 games I mention are OTB only. Apart from that I did play internet games training games also.

The main question is how you get to this starting point of being so strong at blitz that you can beat IM and GM at good days.

Usually players at the level of 1850 are not so strong at blitz.


When I joined a  club for the first time at age 13, I was just another kid who was interested in chess. However, after three months I could already beat my trainer 1900 fide. I guess I always had it inside me. Thats also what motivated me, that I could beat people way stronger than me. But in my opinion talent is not enough. If I had not worked on my chess I would have stayed a 1900 all my life. The fact that I put some effort was rewarded with almost 200 points elo. In my case what was limiting me was purely a problem of good calculation, plus a little opening study and endings but mainly calculation.

I think anybody can improve a lot with the proper training. You need to set realistic goals. If you are 1700 maybe your life time goal could be to reach 1900. If you are 1800 maybe it is to reach 2000. And so on. I think anybody can reach decent chess results no matter the age. But of course to reach master level, you would probably need to have worked or seen chess as a kid. Apart from that its all hard work. In my case I have the passion for chess. This passion without purpose would reach no long-term improvement. But that is the key, to combine passion, intelligence, proper training and good results so that you enjoy your hobby to the maximum.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 20, 2015, 07:43:41 PM »

MY thoughts about your progress:
HOW R U SO GOOD?!? my OTB is 1500. I hate my rating so much, and i'm absolutely hopeless at chess (to the point where I've been called a 'patzer' online (I personally call myself a n00b.) my standard on this site is 1640. ugh.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 20, 2015, 07:49:56 PM »

When I joined a  club for the first time at age 13, I was just another kid who was interested in chess. However, after three months I could already beat my trainer 1900 fide. I guess I always had it inside me. Thats also what motivated me, that I could beat people way stronger than me. But in my opinion talent is not enough. If I had not worked on my chess I would have stayed a 1900 all my life. The fact that I put some effort was rewarded with almost 200 points elo. In my case what was limiting me was purely a problem of good calculation, plus a little opening study and endings but mainly calculation.

I am that 'just another kid who is interested in chess.' I'm also 13 yrs old & i'd rather be a 1900 all my life, bc in that case I wouldn't exactly hate my rating. My chess goal at the moment is to break 1600, so I can play in the highest section of certain scholastic tournaments.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 22, 2015, 11:10:32 PM »

Thanks for the very interesting post kingzilla - after reading that I've decided I'm going to have a good run at your approach.  Just did 5 problems of a custom set (at 1440-1450 standard, as I'm 1622 standard) and took as much time as needed to calculate all the lines before making a move.  Got all five correct which was satisfying.  
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 05, 2015, 07:21:17 AM »

Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I just wanted to add that this is partly due to the fact that tactics make the difference among non-FM players,namely up to 2100. As everyone gets stronger you need to boost(as you mention) other skills in your play. As a matter of fact, I have kept increasing my tactic rating here in chesstempo for a couple of years, but I have scarcery seen such an improverment in my play. I wonder if this site is so suitable for improving endgame skills as well. Anyway,congrats for this post, it will encourage older people to believe that chesss improvement is not only for kids!
Un saludo tito cervi!
Kind regards
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 21, 2015, 09:49:53 PM »

Your hard work and dedication paid off! You persevered and focused where others would have grown discouraged and quit working as hard. You definitely earned your improvement, I'm impressed.
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